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Post by flatterme on Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:25 pm

Why is a round moving earth, which is known as the Heliocentric theory, against Christian reason? Why does the Church favor Geocentrism?
If Heliocentrism is not true science, as Pope Alexander VII, Pope Urban VIII and other popes, Fathers of the Church and saints taught, then it is important to know whether or not the earth is moving, or fixed, round, or even flat.  Modern science even admits that round moving earth and stationary sun (Heliocentrism) are only theories*.  But even with evidence for flat earth, is the Heliocentric theory actually contrary to what the Church has taught?  The answer is yes. In 1633 the Catholic Church spoke using definitive language, declaring in defense of Scripture, that two scientific Heliocentric propositions were false: That the sun is immovable and that the earth moves**.  The Church declared Heliocentric theory altogether false, proximate to heresy and harmful to the faith.  And the Church has never officially changed Her mind.

Why does it matter? How can this be?  Let's examine these questions.

It is well-known that certain aspects of science have been at war with Christianity through the centuries. Protestant scientist, Gerardus Bouw explains to what degree. "Historians readily acknowledge that the Copernican Revolution [i.e., the idea that 'the earth moves and turns'] spawned the bloody French and Bolshevic revolutions... set the stage for the ancient Greek dogma of evolution...led to Marxism and Communism...It is reported that Marx even acknowledged his indebtedness to Copernicus, without whom Marx believed that his ideas would not have gained much acceptance...It is thus a small step to total rejection of the Bible and the precepts of morality and law taught therein."
Many people believe Copernican science has proven the earth to be round (just one aspect of heliocentrism) largely because they think they have seen round earth from space.  For now, there is no concrete proof NASA messes with photos and videos, but the study of their photos and cgi videos spawn many questions.  With atheistic NASA at the helm of all cosmic science, and admittedly atheistic evolutionary agenda, being in charge of every photo, every video taken from space, is it so hard to believe that they would stop at nothing to promote themselves and their money making agenda, as well as prevent everyone from finding out?  You ask, "If there is a coverup, how could they accomplish such a grand scheme? And why? "Well, there is a very good reason.  And the truth is, they are doing it, and it is provable, for those willing to face a startling truth.

A spherical, rotating earth and its inhabitants are focused on the sun in the Heliocentric model, making a mere creature the all important center of the universe.  There's an old saying, "the world doesn't revolve around you" which suggests that when a person does this, they are self centered or too proud.  Anything centered upon, in essence, can be the object of worship. Creature worship is always demonic. And self centeredness is basically, self worship.  So if the earth revolves around the sun, it automatically follows that this creature becomes the central focus of earth's inhabitants, and it winds up in the position of worship, the place of a god and man's focus.  Yet, Scripture teaches us that it is the earth, not the sun, where Jesus Christ Incarnate is the center of worship.  If this isn't true, why all the fuss from traditional minded Catholics when the corrupters of Vatican II moved the tabernacle with the Eucharist in it to the most obscure place in the church?  Heliocentrism is the same principle; it is the moving of God's creation off to a false obscurity in order to replace God's Word.

Both ancient and modern pagan scientists reoriented the world understood from antiquity to be flat, they denied Scripture, denied reality, denied writings of Catholic cosmogrophers, Fathers of the Church and saints, so does it not follow that the pagans are replacing the creator, which for them, is the ultimate goal? Modern science rejects Christianity and its God.  It preaches a new religion: of millions year old earth, evolution, global warming, alien life, the Big Bang and atheism.  Modern scientism works to lay a scientific foundation for new world religion so that metaphysically speaking, all mankind will worship self within a false cosmology as it serves the original liar, the Evil One, and the Antichrist. Satan has always wanted to be god.  In order for his plan to be effected, the devil needed to re-create the world in his own image.  Literally.  

A round, wobbling, rotating, and orbiting earth where people are unaware of any motion strikes awe in the smallest child. But at the same time it fundamentally confuses and unsettles all of us at the deepest levels.  What can be secure or true when our very foundation is moving?  Additionally, everything is a contradiction on a globe. Water behaves contrary to its own nature, never settling flat, because it's surface maintains a curve around the outside of a sphere.  And than magically sticks there! People walk upside down relative to each other on opposites sides of the globe; but that's forgiven because somebody said there's 'gravity', an unexplained force no one 'gets' because it changes with every circumstance.  Stars are billions of light years away, yet one 'came down' as Scripture says, to show where Jesus lay in the manger. False cosmology unsettles us as it subtly denies what we know to be true. Since humans are both spiritual and physical beings, it follows that even one twisted notion about our environment profoundly affects our perceptions of ourselves, our spirit, and our relationship to God.

Heliocentric theory, often rejected by ancient societies and religions has become widely accepted. But with its roots traced back to Kabbalah, the religion of Jewish mysticism, the pagans created this science.  New Age spirituality, Illuminism, and Kabbalah and their heliocentric teachings have become popular in modern culture, yet how few realize that Heliocentric theory was the science universally promoted by pagan religions? While it was bandied about throughout the centuries, even considered possible by some saints, Heliocentrism was really only accepted in the more elite learning circles until Galileo came along in the 1600's.  After all, people didn't have cell phones back then. From there, the development of Heliocentrism from fable into accepted 'fact' is well-documented in the book: The Pontifical Decrees Concerning the Motion of the Earth and the Ultramontane Defense Against Them by Fr. William Roberts.

St. Nilus prophesied a devastating apostasy of science for our times***. Matthew 24: 24 also warned us. "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect."  If even the elect are at risk for being tricked, is it so wrong that we should consider Heliocentrism suspect? Do we really believe that science remained untouched by the same lies and deceit infiltrating all other parts of society?  And why is Catholicism seen as nothing less than a scandal with regards to science? Science brags that Galileo was right, and the Church and scripture were wrong.  As a result, the Bible has lost all credibility for most people with regard to science. Can science, at odds with the Church, now be correct at the expense of the Church?  What Christians do not realize is that the Church proscribes science.  Not the other way around.

Without fixed foundation if the Church and scripture, it would be impossible to get to heaven.  Without a firm foundation under our feet, we may expect similar results. So if indeed the earth is in motion and round, without an up or down then nothing is fixed or certain, nothing is on the level, we have chaos.  Every direction out in space is called 'up' whether it is upside down on the bottom of the globe or right side up on top.  So, in fact, there really is no true 'up'. 'Down' is also relative because it is not truly down, but angles toward the center of the ball earth. With 'down' needing a new definition and 'up' in question, its easy for the mind to wonder, "Did Jesus truly 'rise'?"  Spiritually speaking, this is a common question.  But now, it has a new physical basis for disproving it ever happened.  Rising and ascending are terms which are contradictory on a round earth.  To people on one side of the globe Jesus 'rose' sideways, on another side of the earth, Jesus went the opposite of 'up' which is actually, down.

In the heliocentric theory, the Son of God will not be found at the center of His own universe, but rather, the 'sun god', or 'sun' of god now holds that position in the minds of the masses.  It follows that round, moving earth calls into question both the Incarnation and the Resurrection as Pope Urban VIII and Alexander VII taught.

There is no directions on a globe; especially no east and no west, just relative orientation because if you go far enough, you're no longer either east or west.  We can ask, is north 'up'? On top? Or just 'out'? Does that mean south is down? On the bottom? Or just below at an angle toward the center of the ball? Without true direction, and words no longer on a level playing field, it follows very quickly...There really are no absolutes in the material world. With such a raucous environment comes raucous thought, changeable ideas, new philosophies, new sciences, relativism and modernism.  With all that iffiness, humanity demands and gets by way of proven science new freedoms, and new gods.  In turning to physical science and these false gods as authority greater than Scripture or the Church, men remove themselves psychologically, metaphysically, spiritually, not just from reality, but away from the natural law, readily accepting what is not natural and reasonable, but fundamentally operating against truth.

The theory of relativity and Heliocentrism, at the very foundation of modern science, are provably false doctrines intended to replace truth.  Not one of these famous Heliocentric scientists holds much credibility when their personal lives are examined more closely:

Einstein was an atheist, plagiarist, anti-Catholic and womanizer.
Johannes Kepler, his predecessor, was an occultist,
Isaac Newton was a homosexual, deeply immersed in alchemy and embraced the Arian heresy.
Nicholas Copernicus was a humanist apostate priest with a mistress and philosophies deeply at odds with the Church.  
Galileo proved himself a plagiarist and liar.*****

Is it really such a stretch that the their theories of relativity, gravity and Heliocentrism should be questioned? Is is so hard to believe that relativity in the physical universe is related to spiritual relativity?  Relative directions can only manage to get a person lost, just as relative position on religion destroys one's moral compass.  It's no wonder people feel free to commit adultery because, hey, lots of things are way worse! Free now in their twisted view they can satiate themselves in the various ways that they prefer.  People find this excuse to ignore the law written upon their hearts and consequently become beasts as is seen in our times. With his constantly changing, contradictory playing field, man has become awash in confusion and sin with all the usual indicators pointing in too many directions to know which is right.  It follows that the deterioration of modern civilization is firmly rooted in the rejection of God's account of creation.
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In astronomy, heliocentrism is the theory that the Sun is at the center of the Universe and/or the Solar System. The word is derived from the Greek (Helios = "Sun" and kentron = "Center"). Historically, heliocentrism is opposed to geocentrism and currently to modern geocentrism, which places the earth at the center. (The distinction between the Solar System and the Universe was not clear until modern times, but extremely important relative to the controversy over cosmology and religion.) In the 16th and 17th centuries, when the theory was revived and defended by Copernicus, Galileo, and Kepler, it became the center of a major dispute.

**The Church has declared...
Whereas you, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzio Galilei, of Florence, aged seventy years, were denounced in 1615, to this Holy Office, for holding as true a false doctrine taught by many, namely, that the sun is immovable in the center of the world, and that the earth moves, and also with a diurnal motion; also, for having pupils whom you instructed in the same opinions; also, for maintaining a correspondence on the same with some German mathematicians; also for publishing certain letters on the sun-spots, in which you developed the same doctrine as true; also, for answering the objections which were continually produced from the Holy Scriptures, by glozingA.4 the said Scriptures according to your own meaning; and whereas thereupon was produced the copy of a writing, in form of a letter professedly written by you to a person formerly your pupil, in which, following the hypothesis of Copernicus, you include several propositions contrary to the true sense and authority of the Holy Scriptures; therefore (this Holy Tribunal being desirous of providing against the disorder and mischief which were thence proceeding and increasing to the detriment of the Holy Faith) by the desire of his Holiness and the Most Emminent Lords, Cardinals of this supreme and universal Inquisition, the two propositions of the stability of the sun, and the motion of the earth, were qualified by the Theological Qualifiers as follows:

   1. The proposition that the sun is in the center of the world and immovable from its place is absurd, philosophically false, and formally heretical; because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scriptures.
   2. The proposition that the earth is not the center of the world, nor immovable, but that it moves, and also with a diurnal action, is also absurd, philosophically false, and, theologically considered, at least erroneous in faith.  
"Therefore, invoking the most holy name of our Lord Jesus Christ and of His Most Glorious Mother Mary, We pronounce this Our final sentence: We pronounce, judge, and declare, that you, the said Galileo, have rendered yourself vehemently suspected by this Holy Office of heresy, that is, of having believed and held the doctrine (which is false and contrary to the Holy and Divine Scriptures) that the sun is the center of the world, and that it does not move from east to west, and that the earth does move, and is not the center of the world; also, that an opinion can be held and supported as probable, after it has been declared and finally decreed contrary to the Holy Scripture, and, consequently, that you have incurred all the censures and penalties enjoined and promulgated in the sacred canons and other general and particular constituents against delinquents of this description. From which it is Our pleasure that you be absolved, provided that with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, in Our presence, you abjure, curse, and detest, the said error and heresies, and every other error and heresy contrary to the Catholic and Apostolic Church of Rome."
Holy Office Galileo Affair 1633

***The Prophecy of St. Nilus
After the year 1900, toward the middle of the 20th century, the people of that time will become unrecognizable. When the time for the Advent of the Antichrist approaches, people's minds will grow cloudy from carnal passions, and dishonor and lawlessness will grow stronger. Then the world will become unrecognizable. People's appearances will change, and it will be impossible to distinguish men from women due to their shamelessness in dress and style of hair. These people will be cruel and will be like wild animals because of the temptations of the Antichrist. There will be no respect for parents and elders, love will disappear, and Christian pastors, bishops, and priests will become vain men, completely failing to distinguish the right-hand way from the left. At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and of the Church will change. People will abandon modesty, and dissipation will reign. Falsehood and greed will attain great proportions, and woe to those who pile up treasures. Lust, adultery, homosexuality, secret deeds and murder will rule in society. At that future time, due to the power of such great crimes and licentiousness, people will be deprived of the grace of the Holy Spirit, which they received in Holy Baptism and equally of remorse.
The Churches of God will be deprived of God-fearing and pious pastors, and woe to the Christians remaining in the world at that time; they will completely lose their faith because they will lack the opportunity of seeing the light of knowledge from anyone at all. Then they will separate themselves out of the world in holy refuges in search of lightening their spiritual sufferings, but everywhere they will meet obstacles and constraints. And all this will result from the fact that the Antichrist wants to be Lord over everything and become the ruler of the whole universe, and he will produce miracles and fantastic signs. He will also give depraved wisdom to an unhappy man so that he will discover a way by which one man can carry on a conversation with another from one end of the earth to the other. At that time men will also fly through the air like birds and descend to the bottom of the sea like fish. And when they have achieved all this, these unhappy people will spend their lives in comfort without knowing, poor souls, that it is deceit of the Antichrist. And, the impious one! -- he will so complete science with vanity that it will go off the right path and lead people to lose faith in the existence of God in three hypostases.
Then the All-good God will see the downfall of the human race and will shorten the days for the sake of those few who are being saved, because the enemy wants to lead even the chosen into temptation, if that is possible... then the sword of chastisement will suddenly appear and kill the perverter and his servants.

****Gerardus Bouw, Ph.D., "Why Geocentricity?" -- an article that was in press and due to appear in the Baptist Bulletin, circa Sept. 1985. Bouw is leader of the Association of Biblical Astronomy, a group of creationist Christians who teach geocentrism. He is also the author of Geocentricity, a book that argues for a literal understanding of the geocentric passages in Scripture.

*****1.Einstein was, for all intents and purposes, an atheist. In The Private Lives of Albert Einstein, the authors write: “Einstein’s views were atheistic in almost every important respect. He found it impossible to conceive of a personal deity, had no belief in an afterlife and considered morality an entirely man-made affair. His worship of cosmic harmony was genuine; his claims that this was the face of God were at best benign affectation” (p. 18)
2.Kepler was heavily influenced by the occult, as was his mother, and the latter’s endeavor may have led to her trial as a witch (Kepler’s Witch, James A. Connor, Harper Collins, 2004, pp. 275-307.
3.In addition to the ill-treatment of his scientific colleagues, Newton was rumored to have had a homosexual relationship with one John Wickins, a friend with whom he had lived for twenty years; and a later liaison with Nicholas Fatio De Duillier, a man twenty years his junior and with whom he exchanged intimate letters, many of which were later censored by Newton or a confidant. Newton was also deep into alchemy (illegal at the time) and the Kabbalah, the occult musings of medieval Talmudic authors. Although he was reputed to have Christian moorings, Newton embraced the heresy of Arianism (i.e., the denial of both the divinity of Christ and the Trinity). Westfall writes: “In Newton’s eyes, worshiping Christ as God was idolatry, to him the fundamental sin” (Richard S. Westfall, Never at Rest: A Biography of Isaac Newton, Cambridge University Press, 1981, 1983, p. 314; On Newton’s intimacy with Wickens and Fatio, see Isaac Newton: The Last Sorcerer, Michael White, MA: Perseus Books, 1997, pp. 235-254).
4.Upon reading Copernicus’ De Revolutionibus, one is struck by the preponderance of philosophical and humanistic arguments that he brings to his aid. As J. D. Bernal notes: “[Copernicus’] reasons for his revolutionary change were essentially philosophic and aesthetic,” and in a later edition he is more convinced that the “reasons were mystical rather than scientific” (Science in History, 1st edition, London, Watts, 1954; 2nd edition, 1965).
5.Some admirers even revise Galileo’s words to conform to the empiricist image. Broad and Wade point out Alexandre Koyré’s discovery that an author added the phrase “by experiment” to Galileo’s original wording: “Nevertheless, I have discovered by experiment some properties of it which are worth knowing and which have not hitherto been observed or demonstrated” (“Traduttore-Traditore. A Propos de Copernic et de Galilée,” Isis, 34, 209-210, 1943; Metaphysics and Measurement: Essays in Scientific Revolution, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, 1968). They continue: “With Galileo, the desire to make his ideas prevail apparently led him to repost experiments that could not have been performed exactly as described…The Renaissance saw the flowering of Western experimental science, but in Galileo, the propensity to manipulate fact was the worm in the bud” (Betrayers of the Truth, p. 27).


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